User (Legacy) Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 To speed up the graph on the first download should l have Chart1.UseClientLoader = False or Chart1.UseClientLoader = True. The help notes aren't clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 UseClientLoader = True Will set it up to use the Client Loader which will reduce the time it takes to load a page containing the .NET Control. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 We have UseClientLoader set to false. We would like to increase speed and set to True, but we notice that we can not handle click events when we do that. Is that a bug, or designed this way. My understanding of UseClientLoader is to minimize the download to the client. Is there a way to force the client to never download the control to the client? Chris Exley "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:ius%23R5IFHHA.816@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > UseClientLoader = True > > Will set it up to use the Client Loader which will reduce the time it > takes to load a page containing the .NET Control. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Unfortunately, events can only be received from top-level controls in IE, so you won´t be able to receive events from the client control when using the Client Loader. > Is there a way to force the client to never download the control to the > client? No. IE needs to download the control every time in order to check the version as there is no version information in the <OBJECT> tag itself, like there is for non-.NET ActiveX controls. The Client Loader is the only solution we know. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Sorry, I should have expanded further. After the client hits the control the first time, performance is acceptable. Unfortunately, this is done on a per session basis. Is there a way to force download on first time ever, and be able to expire a control. This would mean that the client gets the control the first time they ever hit a chart, and won´t need to again unless we update the server? Thanks "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:UHKheuLFHHA.2148@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > Unfortunately, events can only be received from top-level controls in IE, > so you won´t be able to receive events from the client control when using > the Client Loader. > >> Is there a way to force the client to never download the control to the >> client? > > No. IE needs to download the control every time in order to check the > version as there is no version information in the <OBJECT> tag itself, > like there is for non-.NET ActiveX controls. The Client Loader is the only > solution we know. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 This is exactly the case I meant to explain. Every time explorer starts it will download the control again. No way around that (that we know of). Client Loader also gets downloaded once every session, the difference is that Client Loader is very very small. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 I have set the UseClientLoader = TRUE and we are rendering the chart with "Auto", but the chart still takes over 15 seconds to display when .NET 2.0 Framework is loaded onto the PC. The SQL query is completed with 0.5 seconds and the website that we are testing is on our LAN, the site is a secure site. Why is it taking so long?? "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:2omrGtMFHHA.1948@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > This is exactly the case I meant to explain. > > Every time explorer starts it will download the control again. No way > around that (that we know of). Client Loader also gets downloaded once > every session, the difference is that Client Loader is very very small. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Also <From The Help Files> If this works for you, there is a registry setting that will generate all your charts using this approach. Registry key: HKLM\Software\Software FX, Inc.\ChartFX for .NET\7.0\Server Name: UseClientLoader Value: 1 (DWORD value) This setting is not present for me. "Sean" <sean.brown@exago.net> wrote in message news:HB1wAwjIHHA.244@webserver3.softwarefx.com... >I have set the UseClientLoader = TRUE and we are rendering the chart with >"Auto", but the chart still takes over 15 seconds to display when .NET 2.0 >Framework is loaded onto the PC. > > The SQL query is completed with 0.5 seconds and the website that we are > testing is on our LAN, the site is a secure site. > > Why is it taking so long?? > > > "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message > news:2omrGtMFHHA.1948@webserver3.softwarefx.com... >> This is exactly the case I meant to explain. >> >> Every time explorer starts it will download the control again. No way >> around that (that we know of). Client Loader also gets downloaded once >> every session, the difference is that Client Loader is very very small. >> >> -- >> Francisco Padron >> www.chartfx.com >> > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 The Default is OFF, if you want the default to be ON, you need to create this setting and set its value to 1. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 PS: It is easy to know whether ClientLoader is being used or not, check the <OBJECT> tag in your source. If ClientLoader is true you will see a reference to ClientLoader.dll there otherwise you will see a reference to the NETIEClient dll. If the client loader is being referenced, then I suppose 15 secs is what its taking your system to load the framework and download the Client Loader dll. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Object Tag Below. <chartfx7:Chart ID="Chart1" runat="server" Height="417px" RenderFormat="Auto" Width="946px" UseClientLoader="True"> There is no reference to ClientLoader.DLL at all. "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:662Xh2kIHHA.244@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > PS: It is easy to know whether ClientLoader is being used or not, check > the <OBJECT> tag in your source. If ClientLoader is true you will see a > reference to ClientLoader.dll there otherwise you will see a reference to > the NETIEClient dll. > > If the client loader is being referenced, then I suppose 15 secs is what > its taking your system to load the framework and download the Client > Loader dll. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 I meant the <OBJECT> tag in your HTML page. Run the form and do a View Source in the browser. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 There is no <OBJECT> Tag Source Attached. "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:Bg1Q9WrIHHA.244@webserver3.softwarefx.com... >I meant the <OBJECT> tag in your HTML page. > > Run the form and do a View Source in the browser. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Sorry about that, there is one indirection in order to overcome the EOLAS problem. Look in <your application>/chartfx70/temp/CFT1219_07590523131.js If the file is not there, run it again and look in the source for /chartfx70/temp/, look at the file name and open it. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 This is the js file "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:lotBlluIHHA.252@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > Sorry about that, there is one indirection in order to overcome the EOLAS > problem. > > Look in <your application>/chartfx70/temp/CFT1219_07590523131.js > > If the file is not there, run it again and look in the source for > /chartfx70/temp/, look at the file name and open it. > > > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted December 19, 2006 Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 The Client Loader is being used. The delay you are seeing is normal for your computer, this is what it takes to load the .NET Framework. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 I don´t understand, earlier you said there should be a reference to clientloader.dll. And l don´t see any speed difference with useclientloader set to true or false "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:JwNSLM4IHHA.244@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > The Client Loader is being used. The delay you are seeing is normal for > your computer, this is what it takes to load the .NET Framework. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2006 Here is the source from a sample graph with useclientloader=true There is no .js file created as well. "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:JwNSLM4IHHA.244@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > The Client Loader is being used. The delay you are seeing is normal for > your > computer, this is what it takes to load the .NET Framework. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Is there anything else we can try speed up the initial loading of the chart? "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:JwNSLM4IHHA.244@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > The Client Loader is being used. The delay you are seeing is normal for > your computer, this is what it takes to load the .NET Framework. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Look inside the .js file, you will see the reference to ClientLoader: classid="/Exago.Graphing.UI/chartfx70/download/ChartFX.NetIEClient.Loader.dll#ChartFX.NetIEClient.Loader" So it is being used. So I don not thing there is anything you can do to speedup the loading of the chart. Loading the .NET framework in a previous page should help but then this page will load slower. I don't think this is related specifically to Chart FX but rather is a general delay of ANY .NET Control, you can verify this by creating a super/simple Windows Form control and referencing it from your page. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted December 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2006 Not sure l understand, our graphing page is not the first page loaded, there are atleast 2 pages loaded first, both with .NET controls on them. In the Task Manager can l see the framework being loaded? "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:Tr%2313mjJHHA.252@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > Look inside the .js file, you will see the reference to ClientLoader: > > classid="/Exago.Graphing.UI/chartfx70/download/ChartFX.NetIEClient.Loader.dll#ChartFX.NetIEClient.Loader" > > So it is being used. So I don not thing there is anything you can do to > speedup the loading of the chart. Loading the .NET framework in a previous > page should help but then this page will load slower. > > I don´t think this is related specifically to Chart FX but rather is a > general delay of ANY .NET Control, you can verify this by creating a > super/simple Windows Form control and referencing it from your page. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 With WinForm controls on them ? Notice that Server-Side WebForm controls don't count, those work in the server and require no .NET Framework in the client. If you have another WinForm control that loads faster than Chart FX, please provide an ASPX page or HTML page that uses it along with the control itself so that we can compare it here. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted January 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Sorry Francisco, There are no winform controls on those pages. I will create a quick test and see if that makes any difference. Thanks for the help. "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:1aMAVhcKHHA.252@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > With WinForm controls on them ? Notice that Server-Side WebForm controls > don´t count, those work in the server and require no .NET Framework in the > client. > > If you have another WinForm control that loads faster than Chart FX, > please provide an ASPX page or HTML page that uses it along with the > control itself so that we can compare it here. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User (Legacy) Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 I created a test application that loads the smallest possible chart with all properties set to false and it takes 30 seconds to load. Is this delay my PC loading the framework? My PC is Dell D610 with 1.7 Pentium M processor with 1.5GB. Is there anyway of speeding up the framework? "Software FX" <noreply@softwarefx.com> wrote in message news:1aMAVhcKHHA.252@webserver3.softwarefx.com... > With WinForm controls on them ? Notice that Server-Side WebForm controls > don´t count, those work in the server and require no .NET Framework in the > client. > > If you have another WinForm control that loads faster than Chart FX, > please provide an ASPX page or HTML page that uses it along with the > control itself so that we can compare it here. > > -- > Francisco Padron > www.chartfx.com > Attachments.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Software FX Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 I'm afraid that will fall out of my expertise, I would think that if that's what you get with the smallest of controls, there is no way to improve that speed but since I didn't write IE or the .NET Framework I can not be certain that there isn't any obscure way to speed-up this process. However 30 secs. is a LOT, I have never experienced these kind of times in any PC, so maybe there is something in your IE configuration or somewhere that's causing this delay. Have you tried in multiple computers ? I think you may want to post in Microsoft's .NET forums, maybe somebody ran into this problem before. -- Francisco Padron www.chartfx.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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